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Mabel Talvas De Alencon

Mabel Talvas De Alencon

Female 1026 - 1079  (53 years)


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  • Name Mabel Talvas De Alencon 
    Birth 1026  Alencon, Eure, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    Death 2 Dec 1079  Bures Castle, Eure, Normandy, France (Murdered) Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Burial 5 Dec 1079  Abbey Of Troarn, Eure, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I52748  Cecilie Family
    Last Modified 2 Jan 2010 

    Father William Talvas De Alencon, II,   b. Abt 1000, Belleme, Perche, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1070, Alencon, Eure, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 70 years) 
    Mother Helie De Bourgogne,   b. Nov 1080   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Family ID F21723  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Father William Talvas De Alencon, II,   b. Abt 1000, Belleme, Perche, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1070, Alencon, Eure, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 70 years) 
    Mother Hildeburge De Beaumont,   b. Abt 990, Le Mans, Sarthe, Maine/Pays-DE-La-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Yes, date unknown 
    Marriage 1st Wife Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Family ID F30797  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Earl Roger De Montgomery,   b. 1022, Of, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 27 Jul 1094, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 72 years) 
    Marriage 1048  Of, Perche, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Children 
     1. Robert De Belleme,   b. Abt 1039, Perche, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1119 (Age 80 years)
     2. Arnulph De Montgomery,   b. Bef 1074, St. Germain Montgomery, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Abt 1126, France (Exiled In 1102) Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 52 years)
     3. Maude De Montgomery,   b. Abt 1041, St-Germain-DE-Montgomery, Calvados, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 1107, Abbey Of St. Grestain, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 66 years)
     4. Roger Montgomery,   b. Abt 1058, Of, March, Poitou, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Aft 1102 (Age 45 years)
     5. Roger "Pictavinus" De Montgommery   d. 1123
     6. Sybil De Montgomery,   b. 1060, St-Germain-DE-Montgomery, Calvados, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Yes, date unknown
    Family ID F21722  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 1 Jan 2010 

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 1026 - Alencon, Eure, Normandy, France Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - 1048 - Of, Perche, France Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • He [Roger de Montgomery] m. 1stly, probably between 1050 and 1054, Mabel, daughter and heir of William Talvas (5th son of William de Belleme, seigneur of Belleme and Alencon), by his 1st wife, Hildeburg, daughter of Arnulf, who has not been identified; she d. 2 Dec 1079, being murdered at Bures by Hugh Bunel, son of Robert de "Jalgeio", from whom she had taken the "castrum quod in rupe Jalgeii situm est", and was buried 5 Dec at Troarn. [Complete Peerage XI:683-7, (above extracted starting in page 686)]

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      Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com, in a post-em, gives additional information on Mabel:

      aka: Mabel/Mabilia Heiress de Belesme (Belleme)

      ...Mabel of Belesme, described by various sources as "wicked, unnatural and cruel"..."haughty, worldly-minded, crafty, and a babbler". ..."Among those whom either her ambition or her hatred had led her to despoil of their rights was Hugh, Seigneur de la Roche Ige (accent over the "e"), whom she had deprived of his castle. On Dec. 2, 1082, he entered her chamber at the Chateu de Bures, near Troarn, and killed her with his sword. Decapitated her, according to some. Hugh successfully escaped. More detail will be found in "Dictionary of National Biography" (v. 49, pp. 101-2). [Ref: Tom Camfield 29 Feb 1996 message to Gen-Medieval]

      died: 10 Dec 1082 [Ref: ES III:636-7]
      Dec 5 1082 [Ref: Watney p5, 696]
      Dec 2 1079 [Ref: Moriarty p11, 12, 44]
      1079 [Ref: Turton p185]
      murdered [Ref: Watney p696]

      buried: Abbey of Troarn, Eure, (in what is now France) [Ref: McBride, Smokykin] note: Smokykin is David Beckwith's website at http://www.smokykin.com/ged/

      Regards,
      Curt

  • Sources 
    1. [S1631] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th, 185-1 (Reliability: 3).

    2. [S1634] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great, XI:683-7 (Reliability: 3).

    3. [S1632] The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton,, 13 (Reliability: 3).