 Aft 1086 - Aft 1137 (51 years)
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| Name |
Lucienne De Montlhery |
| Birth |
Aft 1086 |
Rochefort-En-Yevlines, Yvelines, Ile-DE-France, France  |
| Gender |
Female |
| Death |
Aft 1137 |
| Person ID |
I70687 |
Cecilie Family |
| Last Modified |
31 Dec 2009 |
| Father |
Guy II De Montlhery, b. 1037, Montlhery, Essonne, Ile-DE-France, France d. 1108, Rochefort-En-Yevlines, Yvelines, Ile-DE-France, France (Age 71 years) |
| Mother |
Adelaide De Crecy, b. Abt 1035, Crecy, Ardennes, Champagne, France d. Yes, date unknown |
| Marriage |
1st Wife |
| Family ID |
F30825 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Family 2 |
King Louis VI Of France, b. 1081, Paris, Seine, Ile-DE-France, France d. 1 Aug 1137, Chateau Bethizy, Paris, Ile-DE-France, France (Age 56 years) |
| Marriage |
1104 |
1st Husband 1St Wife - Divorced 1107 |
| Family ID |
F30909 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Last Modified |
31 Dec 2009 |
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| Notes |
- Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com, posted the following, which indicated a source which recently suggested that the mother of Isabelle was not Lucienne, 1st wife of Louis VI, but a Marie de Breuillet. I have not seen any further discussion of this within the Gen-Medieval newgroup, so I think it is too early to say:
ES II:11 indicates b. (1088)=circa 1088, father: Guichard III
Research note 1: According to the current edtion, LES CAPETIENS, by van Kerrebrouck, p 83, the mother of Isabelle, dtr of Louis VI, is Marie de Breuillet, dtr of Renaud de Breuillet. [Ref: Robert S Baxter message to Gen-Medieval 21 Apr 2002]
Research note 2: mother: Adelaide de Crecy
Research note 3: mother: Elise de Corbeil
ES II:11, ES XI:156 = m1 1104 Louis VI 'le Gros' K of F. Divorced (annulled) 1107.
Louis VI was engaged to Lucienne de Rochefort [the same as de Montlhery], but the marriage was not consummated and was annulled on grounds of consanguinity by the council of Troyes presided over by Pope Pascal II. [Ref: Robert S Baxter message to Gen-Medieval 21 Apr 2002 citing: LES CAPETIENS, p 79 et seq, by van Kerrebrouck]. Research note: who was the common ancestor of Lucienne and Louis? Also, was dau Isabelle legitimated when they married then again made illegimate upon annullment?
m2 nach (after) 23.V 1107 [Ref: ES III:624, ES XI:156] um (about) 1107 [Ref: ES II:11] to Guichard.
d. nach (after) 1137 [Ref: ES III:624]
Regards,
Curt
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