 Bef 1040 - 1112 (72 years)
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| Name |
Alberic (Aubrey) De Vere |
| Birth |
Bef 1040 |
Ver, Manche, Normandy, France  [1, 2] |
| Gender |
Male |
| Death |
1112 |
Hedingham Castle, Essex, England [1] |
| Person ID |
I70918 |
Cecilie Family |
| Last Modified |
2 Mar 2009 |
| Father |
Count Alphonso De Vere, b. 1000, Ver, Manche, Normandy, France d. Yes, date unknown |
| Mother |
Katherine Of Flanders, b. Abt 1005, Flanders, France d. Yes, date unknown |
| Family ID |
F31091 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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| Notes |
- In 1086 Aubrey de Ver, the ancestor of the Earls of Oxford, in addtion to his tenancies-in-chief in several counties, was an under-tenant of Geoffrey bishop of Coutances in Kensington, Middlesex, and two places in Northamptonshire. This indicates that his place of origin was Ver (as indicated), which is 18 kil. South of Coutances and not Ver in the Bessin. [Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families]
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Alberic/Aubrey de Ver (a place in the Cotentin Peninsula, Normandy), probably himself a Norman; b. by 1040; by the Domesday Survey held numerous manors, chiefly in Cambs, Essex, and Suffolk--Hedingham, Essex being the chief one, but also in Hunts, Middx (including Cheniston, now Kensington) and Northants; references to him as Chamberlain occur c1110; founded Earl's Colne Priory, Essex, where he and many of his descendants are burried; Sheriff Berks by 1106; married Beatrice and died probably 1112. [Burke's Peerage]
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The following post-em by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann@yahoo.com, certainly puts doubts as to the validity of the ancestry I have for Alberic/Aubrey.
At present I am starting this line with Aubrey de Vere I (d. 1088) & Beatrice. Appendix J in vol. x of "Complete Peerage" even more conservatively indicates that there is no proof that this Aubrey of the Conquest is father of the great chamberlain. There may have been one or more intervening Aubreys. [Ref: Alan B. Wilson 14 Mar 1996 message to soc.genealogy.medival]
The parentage of Alberic/Aubrey de Vere is unknown. He was not son of Alfonso de Ghesnes, the confusion coming from a later Vere/Ghesnes marriage. [Ref: TAF 19 Apr 1998]
FWIW, the following is from Paul McBride's website:
http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~pmcbride/james/f042.htm
The first mention of the De Veres is in the General Survey of England, made by William the Conqueror, wherein the name of Alberic de Vere is stated.
Alberic (Aubrey I.) de Vere, Count Aubrey, "Sanglier," married before 1139 (sic) Beatrix of Ghisnes, Countess of Ghisnes in her own right, and daughter of Henry, Count of Ghisnes, and his wife Sibylla. Alberic possessed numerous lordships in different shires, of which Cheniston (now Kensington), co. Middlesex, was one, and Hedingham, co. Essex, where his castle was situated, and where he chiefly resided, another. The first mention of the De Veres is in the General Survey of England, made by William the Conqueror, wherein the name of Alberic de Vere is stated. He and his wife had five sons: 1. Alberic de Vere, 2. Geoffrey de Vere, 3. Roger de Vere, 4. Robert de Vere, 5. William de Vere. Alberic assumed the cowl in his later days, and died a monk in 1088; he was buried in the church of Colne Priory, which he founded. He was succeeded by his eldest son, Alberic.
McBride cites: Burke's p549-550, CP X:193-219, Wurts, p127-132. Note, he does not identify which of the numerous Burke's publications he cited.
Regards,
Curt
Note: The marriage between Aubrey/Alberic & Beatrix of Ghisnes noted above is the grandson Aubrey III who married Beatrice de Gand. These people are in my file.
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| Sources |
- [S1629] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charl, 2498 (Reliability: 3).
- [S1640] The Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families, by Lewi, 110 (Reliability: 3).
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