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email from RaGena DeAragon |
| Short Title |
email from RaGena DeAragon |
| Author |
RaGena DeAragon |
| Publisher |
Dec 2006 |
| Source ID |
S1165 |
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Dear webmaster to the de Vere web page:
I am a scholar who has been researching the early de Veres for over 25 years, and I am in the finishing stages of writing a book on the family to 1221. There is much incorrect information on the family in print and on-line, so it is not a simple matter to achieve accuracy on a page like yours. I noted a number of factual errors on your page, some of which I can attribute to specific sources you likely used, some rather mystifying to me.
1. Aubrey III: the Complete Peerage states that he was born circa 1110, not in 1110. My personal estimate is that he was born sometime between 1114 and 1120, probably 1114-1116.
2. Castle Hedingham, not Castle Headingham
3. Oxford Castle had nothing to do with the de Veres nor they with it. (It is also most likely not the oldest castle in England.)
4. Robert de Vere died by Oct. 25,1221, so probably within a week or so of that date.
5. Isabel de Bolebec was born probably by 1168, as her father Hugh died circa 1165. (circa means about, and historians of this period would mean within a year or two either side of that date. If she was born posthumously, she could have been born in 1168. She gave birth to her son Hugh in 1208-1210, so she was probably born later rather than earlier.) She was co-heiress of her niece, another Isabel de Bolebec.
6. Hugh was born (as above) 1208-10. His parents had married in 1207, and Isabel was nearly at the end of her childbearing years. His birthplace is anyone's guess. Since his uncle earl Aubrey (IV) was still alive, they may have been living on one of Isabel's properties when he was born.
Sincerely,
RaGena DeAragon, Director of Women's Studies
Associate Prof. of History
AD Box 35
Gonzaga University
Spokane, WA 99258-0001 |
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Individuals: 4 |
Isabel De Bolebec, Heiress Of Bolebec
Aubrey III De Vere, Gt. High Chamberlain Of Eng.
Earl Hugh De Vere, 4th Earl Of Oxford
Robert De Vere, Magna Charta Surety |
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